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mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 523 (3/14/03 11:27 pm) Reply	oh my god i just took the guitar out of the garage and into a fully lit room. it looks absolutely fucking fantastic. the nitro went into the grain, so it shimmers. well, time to do some drilling (getting ahead of schedule again).
shawn phase of tss registered minibossie Posts: 414 (3/15/03 12:15 am) Reply	Re: oh my god im tellin you get s steinberger, theyre SO cheap right now and so good youll sell all your fenders and your gibsons and your warmoths sp/tmpsndsltns//www.inpuj.net///tempsoundsolutions.tk
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 524 (3/15/03 12:41 am) Reply	goddammit so i put the guitar together, and was planning on wiring it and rocking for a while, but i just realized that i don't have a capacitor for the tone pot. i think i'm going to go ahead and finish the assembly and do all of the wiring, and just get a cap when i get up in the morning. also, the guitar looks much better than i thought it would. i love this damn thing. fuck steinbergers. my guitars need to have heads.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 525 (3/15/03 1:51 am) Reply	maybe not it took about 45 minutes to get my old 3 way switch cleaned up, so i only got it ready and decided that i should get some sleep. wiring tomorrow. yay.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 526 (3/15/03 1:28 pm) Reply	goddamn radio shack no .022 caps at radio shack, so i'm going to have to wait a while to have a working tone pot. ah well. time to solder.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 527 (3/15/03 4:51 pm) Reply	shit i took the cap out of my tele and put it in the mockingcaster. then i spent a lot of time trying to get the damn thing wired correctly. i couldn't get anything to work right, so i decided to say fuck the coil splits for a while. now i'm having some strange grounding issues. once that gets resolved i may be able to string it up and play (i'm just tapping on pole pieces with a screwdriver right now).
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 528 (3/15/03 10:11 pm) Reply	shit pt. ii my 3 way switch is crap. it no longer works as it should. therefore, i'm going to wire straight to the pots until i can get a new one. fuck.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 529 (3/16/03 12:32 am) Reply	surprise, surprise i still can't get the fucking wiring right, so i've decided to just say fuck it until i can get a new 3 way switch (hopefully tomorrow).
shawn phase of tss registered minibossie Posts: 421 (3/16/03 4:54 am) Reply	Re: surprise, surprise HEADLESS GUITARS RULE THIS FLAT ERTH!!!!!!!!! plus......its easier to push em against the corners of your cabs and get controlled feedback via the whole chassis...i think thats the single most appealing factors of these steinbergers, other than the impeccable tuning system, the patented s trem locking system, the unbeatable bridge, shit they come loaded with emg's..youre basically getting a guitar for the pickups and they come stock on all of em...i will buy more in the future i am sure but these things are just in a leage of their own, and even if its bush league, i like what im delving into, hehe sp/tmpsndsltns//www.inpuj.net///tempsoundsolutions.tk
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 530 (3/16/03 6:44 pm) Reply	Re: surprise, surprise all the new steinbergers i've seen come stock with emg selects-the squire of emg pickups.
shawn phase of tss registered minibossie Posts: 423 (3/17/03 2:45 am) Reply	Re: surprise, surprise yeah, and they're basically the best pickups around, with fresh clean strings they sound like a fucking public adress system, the only thing i'd change is maybe a lower resistance tone and volume pot for a more gradual fade but i kinda like whats in there now, i may get a black pickguard even but finding one may be tough sp/tmpsndsltns//www.inpuj.net///tempsoundsolutions.tk
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 151 (3/17/03 9:18 am) Reply	I don't post on the weekend Mig, I'm sure you might already be aware of this, but you don't have to use a .022uf capacitor in you tone pot. Just about any cap will do, the value of it just changes the frequencies that get rolled off to ground. I'm not sure what value cap I got from Carvin last summer, but I never touch the tone knob on the frankenstrat because it sounds like dogshit any position less than all the way up. WD Music makes custom pickguards. Send them a tracing and they'll do anything for you. www.pickguards.com
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 531 (3/17/03 1:01 pm) Reply	Re: I don't post on the weekend yeah, john, i am aware of that. if i can't find any .022's next time i go to radio shack, i'll probably just get some .047's or something else. right now i'm dealing with the piece of shit 3 way switch i bought yesterday. it was the only one they had in the store, and it's like nothing i've ever seen. hopefully the good folks at the seymour duncan forum will be able to help me out. also, the damn switch didn't come with mounting screws, and no other screws i have fit in it. fuck. oh yeah, i ruined one of the pots that was going in the mockingcaster, but fortunately had an extra, usable pot from my old bass. hopefully i'll have this done soon.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 532 (3/18/03 1:27 am) Reply	ready for use alright, i got the wiring to work sort of correctly. the middle position of the switch does nothing, but the other two work correctly. the tone pot also doesn't seem to be doing anything, but that's alright for now. anyway, it sounds great. tomorrow i'll get it all set up (intonation, action, and whatnot).
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 152 (3/18/03 12:21 pm) Reply	Re: ready for use Hmmm. Do you have a strat/tele style switch or a gibson style switch? I only have experience with the Gibson style ones. With those, it would be impossible for that scenario you described to occur. I'm not at all familiar with the other style, so I've got input there. UPS says I should have my neck by tomorrow afternoon. Yeah! As if I don't have enough to do already...
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 533 (3/18/03 2:58 pm) Reply	Re: ready for use i've got a fender style switch...except it's not fender style as the lugs are different. i'm sure i can figure it out, i'm just tired of messing with it. i'll probably get back to it in a couple days. i need to get a better 3 way switch, but that's not going to happen any time soon. i have a good five-way switch, and assuming it still works i may put it in. i'll figure it out. my next project is to mod my big muff so that it doesn't kill my clean tone.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 153 (3/20/03 10:14 am) Reply	You may have gotten 200, but I got 217! So there! Got the neck back yesterday. Bolted it on while watching war coverage on the TV. They did a really good job with the refinish. It looks great. I also took the opportunity to oil the rosewood fretboards on both necks. Haven't set up the action or intonation yet, I was tired and it was late. I modded a Proco Rat about a year ago. I turned it into a reverb switch for my amp!
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 534 (3/20/03 11:49 am) Reply	Re: You may have gotten 200, but I got 217! So there! the mod i'm performing on the big muff won't require much. i think i'm just unsoldering the wire to the led light and moving it somewhere. maybe i should read the rest of that faq...
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 155 (3/21/03 9:32 am) Reply	more about the warmoth I'm curious about what they did during the refin process. I was having a lot of problems getting rid of string buzz on the bass side of the neck, until I noticed that the nut is so low that the strings barely clear the first fret. I've slipped a couple layers of paper in the string grooves temporarily until I can get a new one. I guess the Warmoth guys had to remove it to do the refin and somehow lowered it a bit. Maybe I'll just slip some paper under the nut if I can remove it in one piece. My wife has a Washburn from the 80's with a Floyd locking nut. I once took it off and found some 150 grit sandpaper between the nut and the wood. I guess they shaved off a little too much when originally installing it! Also, the frets seem abnormally rough. I'm wondering if they taped off the face of the rosewood board and left the frets exposed to get finish on them. It's a satin finish, so that would make sense. It doesn't affect the tone at all, so I guess I'll just wait until it wears off naturally. Another thing I did was to shim the neck in the neck pocket. I had done this with the Jap jazzmaster neck and decided to keep it in there with the warmoth neck just to see how it played. I've got the action really low now. It's nice.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 157 (3/21/03 3:49 pm) Reply	OMFG I have found my next project. I was reading rants and raves about a new custom guitar company similar to warmoth called USA Custom Guitars. I just checked them out. They have my next guitar. They make Carved-top hollowbody telecasters. This is the holy grail of guitar bodies. I've been looking at the thinline bodies at Warmoth and thinking about those, and even considering one of their hollow strats. Looking at the teles (because they are true semi-hollows like a Gibson 335) I was thinking, 'you know, I'd like to see one of those with a carved top'. Loand behold, USACG has them. They're friggin expensive ($400+ unfinished) but oh man, oh man, I'm so excited. That also isn't to mention they have redwood tops available. Can you imagine? Ash back with redwood top, white binding around the top... Ahhhhh, I'm drooling just thinking about it.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 540 (3/26/03 1:06 pm) Reply	Re: OMFG that tele sounds bitchin, john. my plans for this summer are to buy ben's tremoverb. if he sells it before i get the cash to buy it, or i make more money than i'm expecting this summer; i might build a jazzmaster. something like this: me building a jazzmaster and john building a telecaster....strange times these are. i'm off to buy caps now, and work on the mockingcaster some more. pics soon. promise.
bluegoriya registered minibossie Posts: 581 (3/26/03 1:28 pm) Reply	Re: OMFG that pic looks nice . how is the finish's consistancy, was it easy to get out the drips and lumps with more coats? Bluegoriya A.K.A. Finalfunk7
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 541 (3/26/03 2:10 pm) Reply	Re: OMFG that's not my guitar
bluegoriya registered minibossie Posts: 583 (3/26/03 2:15 pm) Reply	Re: OMFG dohhhhh! but did you ever get a nice smooth finish? Bluegoriya A.K.A. Finalfunk7
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 158 (3/26/03 2:26 pm) Reply	Re: OMFG Carved top hollow tele body
shawn phase of tss registered minibossie Posts: 455 (3/27/03 5:58 am) Reply	Re: OMFG cardved top hollow body tele? sounds like feedback central to me, man especially if youve got a humbucker in the bridge..that would be cool as shit with a bigsby tho, can we say 'air raid siren'? sp/tmpsndsltns//www.inpuj.net///tempsoundsolutions.tk
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 159 (3/27/03 9:14 am) Reply	Re: OMFG Oh, forgive me. Carved top semi-hollow tele body. No, I don't think I'll ever own a true hollowbody, for reasons that include the feedback issues associated with those.
BornInCrimson registered minibossie Posts: 463 (3/31/03 12:44 am) Reply	Re: OMFG Mig should post some guitar pics On my side I bought some nail polish (it is nitrocellulose after all) to touch up some nicks on my SG that really bother the fuck out of me. The black I bought was a little darker than my guitar, and it doesn't have the cracks the rest of the finish does. Any big chips are still noticable if you look, but minor scratches and chips vanish.
Failing Silence registered minibossie Posts: 2 (3/31/03 1:50 am) Reply	Re: guitarra pre-update ibanez rg3120 prestige emg 89 at the neck, 81 at the bridge. i love it. www.imagestation.com/pict...6cfe75.jpg Edited by: Failing Silence at: 3/31/03 1:51:51 am
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 544 (3/31/03 10:36 am) Reply	hell alright, here's a pic, but it looks horrid. hopefully i can have better quality pics soon. www.villagephotos.com/image.asp?id_=2015522 Edited by: mig50 at: 3/31/03 10:39:42 am
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 545 (3/31/03 2:51 pm) Reply	finally got the mockingcaster wired correctly with that shitty three way switch. once i get some money i'm going to order a good three way switch (i'm sure this one will break in about two days) as well as some good capacitors (definitely need .022s).
Bluesman82 The Ultimate Go-to Abandonware Hunter Posts: 482 (3/31/03 7:50 pm) Reply	... Hey Mig, have you ever opened up the front panel of your Sovtek head? I ask because my inputs are going on the fritz and I can't figure out how to get into the damn thing to fix the loose wire (which is what I'm assuming is the problem)...
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 546 (3/31/03 7:53 pm) Reply	Re: ... actually, i did take it apart once just for the hell of it. open it up from the back, and just take the amp out of the housing (be careful). that should do the trick.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 547 (3/31/03 7:57 pm) Reply	oh yeah to get that front panel off, you'll probably have to take the nuts off of the input jacks, take off the plastic knobs, and take the bolts off the power and standby switches.
Bluesman82 The Ultimate Go-to Abandonware Hunter Posts: 483 (3/31/03 8:29 pm) Reply	Re: oh yeah Take that stuff off from the front, or from the inside? I yanked on the knobs a bit but they wouldn't seem to come off. Bolted on the inside? -Matt B
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 548 (3/31/03 8:33 pm) Reply	Re: oh yeah yeah, take all that off of the front. you can take off the back panel and take the innards out (the front part will still be attached). on one side of the knobs (opposite the point) there's a hole. i'm assuming that they're held on with a screw. get a precision screwdriver and see if that'll help (could be an allen screw, but i doubt it).
Bluesman82 The Ultimate Go-to Abandonware Hunter Posts: 484 (3/31/03 9:51 pm) Reply	Re: oh yeah Ah. Got the amp out of its housing (I had tried this beforehand, but apparently a few screws on the bottom were holding the thing in place). Fixed my low input that had retreated into the inside of the amp a few months ago, and jiggled a few wires and now the high doesn't cut out either. I'll see if this works out long-term, otherwise I may need to have someone look at it. Thanks Mig, appreciate it. -Matt B
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 161 (4/2/03 9:22 am) Reply	Fuck Gibson This is why I will never buy an off-the-shelf Gibson Notice the list price of $9,193. Excuse me? What was that, Gibson? Tell me, please... I want to see the breakdown of income off one of those guitars. "Let's see, about $400 per guitar in parts and labor, about $1000 in royalties to the Wes Montgomery estate... let's set the retail at $9,193. That seems fair. So, after the markdown, it'll be about six grand! That's an affordable instrument in my book." Fuck that shit, and fuck Gibson Musical Instruments, those arrogant fucks. I don't give a shit what name is attached to it, there is NO guitar out there that's worth that much money, unless there is some sort of sentimental value attached to it. I cannot imagine ANYONE having ANY sentiment attached to an off-the-shelf guitar. Period. /rant
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 550 (4/2/03 9:52 am) Reply	Re: Fuck Gibson i actually may never buy an off the shelf guitar again anyway. i've gotten too addicted to building them. actually, i'd really like a les paul one day, but i doubt i'll ever be able to do a set neck. i'll definitely buy used.
Bluesman82 The Ultimate Go-to Abandonware Hunter Posts: 490 (4/2/03 5:35 pm) Reply	Re: Fuck Gibson Yeah, fuck Gibson. I like my 300 dollar Canadian guitars. -Matt B
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 162 (4/3/03 11:19 am) Reply	Re: Fuck Gibson Hey, they grow some nice tonewoods up there in Canada. They also brew excellent beer, specifically the Unibroue brewery in Quebec.
BornInCrimson registered minibossie Posts: 482 (4/8/03 8:09 pm) Reply	Hey Mig What are you using to buff or polish your nitro finish? I'm working on restoring mine a bit so my friend can put an MGS2 graphic on it. I've got the nail polish technique down but I've been using #600 silicate sand paper to even out the parts I touched up, which also scratches up the finish around those parts.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 555 (4/9/03 9:03 am) Reply	Re: Hey Mig umm...i haven't gotten around to sanding out/buffing the finish yet. i probably won't either. i had various grades of sandpaper (from 600 to 2000 i think), but i never bothered with evening it out. sorry i'm not any help on this one.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 564 (4/11/03 7:22 pm) Reply	trying the picture thing again again, that's a really shitty pic, but you get the basic idea. more/better pics soon....i hope
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 167 (4/23/03 10:54 am) Reply	Shop trip So, I'm taking my Warmoth in to the shop <gasp>. The Warmoth guys took a little too much off the underside of the nut when they refinned the neck and the three bass strings are too low. Unless I stuff four or five little scraps of paper under the strings (which kills the sustain) they buzz like crazy against the frets. I've tried a bunch of different stuff, but I have no idea what kind of glue they used on the nut and I can't get it out of the slot. Alas, I have to break down and take it in to the shop where they have specialty tools for this sort of thing. Bummer. Oh well, at least I know that the guitar will be playing great again when I get it back.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 574 (4/23/03 4:44 pm) Reply	that's a bitch. damn, that sucks. oh yeah, i finally have good quality pics, and i may even have some webspace to dump them in. we shall see.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 169 (4/30/03 9:22 am) Reply	learning See, this is why I want to learn to do EVERYTHING myself. I called the shop yesterday to see if they were done, four and a half business days (and a full weekend) after I drop it off and they hadn't even started on it. I call in advance last Wednesday to ask how long a setup takes, they tell me two or three days, I call back after four and a half and they haven't even started? WTF? I have a show tomorrow night! I told them that when I gave it to them. So, they're going to give me a guitar at the last minute (that's IF they finish it on time) that I have to get used to playing again the SAME DAY as a show? Who knows what it's going to play like when I get it back! I play some pretty intricate stuff while singing and if the guitar doesn't feel right, then it totally fux me up. The alternative is to play my frankenstrat which sounds totally different and is totally unreliable electronically. Anyway, I don't need this stress in my life right now, goddamnit. </rant>
raubhimself registered minibossie Posts: 746 (4/30/03 10:20 am) Reply	Re: learning that sucks ass man, i would bitch and bitch if that happened to me. Do you guys think it would be worthwhile to buy an ESP Eclipse 300 for $450? the list proce is 650, and i have never played one, but no places around here sell ESPs.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 170 (4/30/03 11:03 am) Reply	Re: learning I think the question is, is it worthwhile to you? That's about a 30% markdown - pretty typical. I went to ESP's site to look at them and they really aren't my thing, so I can't really comment fairly about that guitar in particular. $450 is a lot of money. Personally, I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a guitar I've never played that isn't something vintage, collectable, or custom made.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 171 (4/30/03 11:04 am) Reply	Re: learning Nabbing 250 'cause I'm a geek.
raubhimself registered minibossie Posts: 748 (4/30/03 11:14 am) Reply	Re: learning hmm.. maybe i will go with one of the lower models, or just look around
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 578 (4/30/03 11:52 am) Reply	a; raub, definitely play a guitar before you buy it. you need to make sure you like the feel of it. speaking of the feel of guitars-john, that sucks ass. i'm sure the loaner you get from that shop is going to be a real piece. good luck with it and let us know how the show goes.
raubhimself registered minibossie Posts: 749 (4/30/03 12:08 pm) Reply	Re: a; shazbot, i know i should definately play one before i buy it. But, like i said, none of the places around here sell them. I plan on going out saturday to look at some other guitars.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 174 (5/1/03 1:51 pm) Reply	got it back So, $80 later, I got my guitar back. It plays beautifully. It was stressful not having it, but I've got it back now and it plays better than it ever has. That's a good thing, with three shows this month and work on a full-length, I needed it playing well for me. Now I just have to get used to the beefy fatback neck before tonight. Edited by: JohnMFer at: 5/1/03 1:52:11 pm
raubhimself registered minibossie Posts: 767 (5/1/03 3:09 pm) Reply	Re: got it back thats good news John. I think i changed my mind about the ESP, i think i might get a Steinberger like shawn said, and then change the pickups eventually.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 583 (5/22/03 9:59 pm) Reply	gone for two weeks and the damn thread tries to sneak away nothing too terribly new to post, but here goes: once i get my first paycheck (in a couple weeks) i'm going to get a new 3-way switch for the mockingcaster, get some extra pots & knobs just because they're handy to have around, and then there's the bass project- i'm sick of the damn 60 cycle hum that comes from my bass (p/j combo), and i'd also like some more punch/growl. therfore, i'm going to a seymour duncan hot for jazz neck pickup, do some routing/pickup cover sanding, and put the bridge pickup and new neck pickup together-basically making a humbucker. that'll take care of that fucking hum, as well as add some more beef to the tone. oh yeah, i'm also trying to get my goddamn pics uploaded to some webspace so that maybe i can post them one of these days. assuming i ever get it done, you'll see them (how long have i been saying that?).
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 584 (5/22/03 10:22 pm) Reply	another thought on the bass project since i'm wiring both j bass pickups to one pot, i may just get a push/pull pot so i can split it...i'll consider it.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 177 (5/23/03 8:50 am) Reply	Re: another thought on the bass project Eh, personally I can't stand push/pull knobs. Too much work, requires too many fingers to operate in a pinch. Mini-toggles are my preference. However, I do see the point of the push/pull knob. If you have a vintage instrument or you want a certain look for your guitar and don't want to drill any holes or whatever, push/pull is better than not having the option you want. Anyway, I'm suprised you're getting 60 cycle hum from a PJ bass. You sure it's wired correctly?
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 585 (5/26/03 4:39 pm) Reply	mm hmmm yeah, the hum only comes from the bridge pickup, which is to be expected because it's a single coil. on the subject of push-pull knobs, i already have them installed in my two guitars, so they don't bother me at all. i've also decided that i'll probably wire the bridge pickup(s) series/parallel instead of splitting it because series/parallel doesn't hum.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 588 (5/27/03 9:28 pm) Reply	oh yeah another reason for not using mini toggles on the bass is that it has a metal pickguard. getting through that would be more trouble than it's worth. i was looking around on ebay and found an epiphone 12 string neck. i decided to bid on it just for the hell of it. since i don't really need it or want it all that bad, i only bid $20. if i do win the auction, i'll keep it around until i decide to build a twelve string (which could be sooner than expected).
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 178 (5/28/03 9:38 am) Reply	Re: oh yeah Cool. I'm looking forward to my semi-hollow carved top tele creation. It's still going to be at least several months, if not another year. I have a drumset I'm in the process of setting up. Now that my wife and I have a house with a room dedicated to music, we really want to get this drumkit back to playable form. That involves all new heads (tops and bottoms), several replacement lugs, and all the stands and cymbals too. It's probably going to be a $500-$600 investment - Zildjian ZBTs (or Sabian B8s) just don't cut it I'm afraid. I'd rather spend $200 on a nice ride that I'll have for several years than $200 on an entire set of cymbals that sound like shit out of the box and last maybe a year. So, that's where my music money is going to be going for quite a while.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 589 (5/28/03 12:39 pm) Reply	why can't i remember everything in one post? almost forgot-after jamming with some people over the weekend, i realized that both of my guitars need work. my telecaster still has a bad ground because it hums like a bitch, and the mockingcaster may neeed a lot of work. you can't play an open d on it, all you get is buzz. i'm hoping that a string tree and some thicker strings will solve the problem (i can try other things like a truss rod adjustment and whatnot as well), otherwise i may have to renut it. granted, i've had people tell me to leave renuts to the pros, but f that. i'll do it myself. i know that you can order all the tools you need from stewmac. it'll be an experience. also, if i win that twelve-string neck, i'll have to nut it as well. anyway, i started my new job today, so i'll have the money to order the needed parts for repairs and bass modifications next friday.
bluegoriya registered minibossie Posts: 796 (5/28/03 1:19 pm) Reply	Re: why can't i remember everything in one post? are you selling any cybals mf er? im looking for an 18 in crash, a 10 in splash. any one got any good ones? any cymbal hardware? love, me Bluegoriya A.K.A. Finalfunk7
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 591 (5/28/03 1:59 pm) Reply	here we go again...
bluegoriya registered minibossie Posts: 798 (5/28/03 2:25 pm) Reply	Re: here we go again... heres a good question, being one who doesnt know much about finish. mig, do you or other guitarist finish the headstock of the guitar? and also, one does usually finish the back of the neck right? with what? could i just rub a couple layers of tung oil on the back of the neck and thats it? would i use any on the headstock? thanks for your experience, blue Bluegoriya A.K.A. Finalfunk7
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 592 (5/28/03 2:45 pm) Reply	nah i've never finished a neck. i'd imagine you'd want at least a thin layer of clear coat to protect the neck. as for finishing the headstock, i suppose you could, but i wouldn't want to.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 180 (5/30/03 9:51 am) Reply	Re: nah Nope, Blue, I'm looking to buy cymbals. I don't own any yet. Anyway, about neck finishing... I'm not sure what kind of project you're working on. Typically, with Maple or Mahogany necks, you wouldn't want to rub on tung oil. While it makes for a great feel, your neck is likely to warp beyond repair after a few years (or so I've read). Personally, I like a satin polyurethane finish, because it isn't sticky like a gloss finish. To be honest, to me it feels the same as tung oil, especially after a couple months of playing on it (the satin smooths out a little as you play on it). However, there are woods you can get a neck made out of from Warmoth that you CAN'T finish due to the oily nature of the woods. Headstock finishing? Do you mean putting on a laminate so the wood matches the body of the guitar? Do you mean painting it a solid color to match the body? Do you mean simply putting finish on it like the backside of the neck?
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 181 (5/30/03 9:53 am) Reply	Re: nah Oh, and by the way, the only finishing I've done for guitars is a stain and tung oil which looks terrible on a cheapo strat body. Warmoth took care of the satin polyu for me.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 593 (6/1/03 1:05 pm) Reply	same shit, different day on the subject of sticky glossy necks: i've always heard that glossy nitro finishes on necks get sticky, especially when your hand gets sweaty. however, i haven't noticed this on my telecaster. in fact, when my hand gets sweaty, it seems to play better. odd. i was outbid on the 12 string neck, so i won't be building one any time soon. i may still buy a twelve string this sumemr however. it really just depends on how all of my gear purchases go. here are a couple more guitar pics. i took one with my flash and one without. i think it shows off the highlights in the mockingcaster nicely. soon i'll have pics of the entire guitars, headstock and all.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 594 (6/2/03 3:38 pm) Reply	f the push/pull after looking around stewmac.com, i've decided that i'm going to get a dual concentric pot for my bass humbucker project. that way i can control the volume of both coils for more versatility. i should be ordering all the parts i need for the bass and the mockingcaster this week. i'll post results. also, i'm really thinking about getting a danelectro twelve string this summer. they're kickass.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 182 (6/2/03 4:26 pm) Reply	dually Schweet photos. I like the grain of the MC, very nice looking. Also, and I think I've said this before, but the tele is sweet with that relic'd sort of paint job. Yeah, the dual concentric sounds like the best idea. I need to figure out what's up with my camera and get some pics of my guitars going. The pictures it's been taking are lousy and there's always this flashing light by the light meter that never used to flash before. Maybe the two are related, or not. I do computers and guitars and cars somewhat, but I don't know anything about fixing cameras.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 595 (6/2/03 4:31 pm) Reply	finish i think one of the best/funniest parts of the telecaster finish is the big drop of solder that sits south of bridge.
bluegoriya registered minibossie Posts: 813 (6/2/03 4:33 pm) Reply	Re: dually where do you work mig, cause you sure can afford alot. maybe i should start doing what you do, id be rolling in dough! jk arnt you in college? well excuuuuuuuse me! Edited by: bluegoriya at: 6/2/03 4:38:51 pm
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 596 (6/2/03 4:47 pm) Reply	dollas dollas actually, blue, i don't have a steady job to support my gear habit. i just buy stuff when i have the money and modify it when i get more money. child support checks also help.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 183 (6/3/03 9:04 am) Reply	it's not all about the bling bling Buying parts and putting them together (and in Mig's case, doing your own finishing) is usually cheaper in the long run for the quality you get. Also, since you're buying parts, you can just buy a piece here and there, and over a period of months or years you eventually get a ton of gear together. Plus, there's tons of used parts on ebay you can get for even cheaper. I got an Ibanez RS2 neck in great shape for less than $50, and built a custom strat around it for less than $250 total including that neck. So, it looks like you have more money when you start taking pictures, but you really don't have to have much at all.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 598 (6/3/03 8:56 pm) Reply	precisely exactly what i was thinking, john. anywho, whilst i was chucking rotten eggs at work today, i gotten into deep thought about how to spend my egg chucking money. i came up with four options: 1. buy a danelectro 12 string and another guitar (not sure what kind). 2. build a guitar (i was thinking strat) 3. buy a danelectro 12 string and get new tubes and speakers for my amp 4. blow half of my summer earnings on a silverburst '81 les paul custom option number four is the least likely as the particular les paul i saw will probably long gone before i get the money saved (in fact, it's probably already gone). option three is looking the most promising as of right now. then again, i'm the most indecisive bastard alive when it comes to gear decisions.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 184 (6/4/03 9:52 am) Reply	tubes and speakers So, are you referring to your Mig 50? What's the tube setup in one of those things again? I used to own one but that was 8 years or so ago, just for the summer and fall of '95. What kind of speakers do you currently have, and what were you thinking about replacing them with? I'm a Celestion Vintage 30 man. I don't think I'll ever use anything but ever again. What perfect tone you get from those things.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 599 (6/4/03 1:11 pm) Reply	indeed the mig-50 is the only tube amp i own, so that is indeed the one i'm talking about. it has two 5881's and three 12AX7's. i have no idea what kind of tubes i'll use to replace them (if i even decide to replace them). right now i have eminence speakers, and they just fine, but i'd like to get some higher end speakers. i've heard that a change in speakers will dramatically change your tone, so i'm all for it. i'm not sure what kind i'll put in the cab, however. i'm thinking either celestion or weber, but no idea what model. of course, that's one vote for vintage 30s. i once again pondered at work today, and now i'm leaning toward the strat. eh, i'll figure it all out eventually. i think the retube/respeaker is probably the most sensible idea. the only bad thing about replacing the tubes is that i'll have to have a pro do it. actually, i could do it myself, but it'll most likely have to be rebiased. i don't know how to do that. i have no doubt that i could find out how, but i'd probably wind up electrocuting myself. anway, like i said, i'll figure it out eventually.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 185 (6/4/03 1:55 pm) Reply	Re: indeed Absolutely speakers will change your tone drastically. Celestion's website has a section that plays samples of each speaker they make. Two or so years ago, they used to have the exact same guy/riff/guitar/amp head/microphone/mic placement for each demo. It was cool because all the tone variables were minimized except the changed out speaker. It was amazing the differences between them. That's what led me to the Vintage 30s and I'll never go back to G12-75Ts (which I used to use). Now they've got got some jackass doing these wanker guitar solos in different styles and it's almost impossible to tell the difference in tone of the speaker itself. Stupid mother F'ers, way to ruin a perfectly good thing. I don't have any experience with Weber, but what I've read is very good. They are supposed to make good BBQ grills as well, but I think my Kenmore grills up food just fine and it was at least a hundred bucks cheaper than the comparable Weber. Anyway, about biasing... you really have to have a voltmeter to do it right. There are people out there on the Internet that say otherwise, but I disagree with them. It's relatively easy to do, you should have a bias potentiometer inside your amp someplace you just turn with a screwdriver while measuring voltages across different parts of the amp. It's so easy I hate taking it to the shop to have it done. But I shocked myself so bad I burned a hole in my finger while messing around with the bias in my JCM800 four or so years ago, and I haven't tried to bias an amp since. That shit hurt. Of course, they engineered it so your hand would be right up against the backside of the main power switch, with bare wiring attached to the cable plugged directly into the wall connected to it. My wife's Ampeg SVT2 has LED indicators and bias knobs on the back panel, so you can bias it any time you want without a voltmeter or even having to remove it from the rack. I think every amp should be like that.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 600 (6/4/03 2:06 pm) Reply	kenmore schmenmore i can tell you from experience that weber makes a damn fine grill. on the subject of biasing, perhaps i will try it myself. i'll make sure to read up on it, and perhaps wear some thick gloves in hope i won't electrocute myself. you're right about that ampeg, all amps should be like that. the more i think about it, the more i think i need new tubes and speakers. i think i'll buy those before i buy any other gear, then see where i stand moneywise before purchasing any guitars. but before i get too ahead of myself, i still have to get my bass mod done. i plan on placing my orders on monday.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 601 (6/4/03 3:58 pm) Reply	i've been doing some research... ...very little research, that is. i read that celestion vintage 30 and g12h speakers go together beautifully. i'm thinking of getting one of each to put in my cab, but first i'm going to try to get some more opinons/do some more research on the subject. i didn't bother listening to any of the sound samples on the celestion site. the way it's set up is pretty damn stupid, as you stated earlier.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 186 (6/6/03 9:41 am) Reply	decisions decisions I think I've decided to go ahead and spend the money on a Dunlop Rotovibe pedal. They're like $150, but they sound so awesome. That will seriously set back my quest to get this drumset together, though, so I'm not totally sure. What sold me on them is the guitarist from Houston. He has one and uses it almost every time he needs a modulation effect. I absolutely love the watery tone those things have. Plus, the foot controlled speed thing is totally cool. Well, anyway, I've been running through several of our songs in my head thinking about where I could use it and I've got all kinds of ideas, just various parts where the guitar is too dry or whatever. Since we're working on an album, it'd be really good if I'm going to include it live on several songs if I recorded it that way too. Crap. I really want the drumset to come together, though. I just don't know what to do.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 602 (6/6/03 1:24 pm) Reply	used? i'm sure you could get a used rotovibe for cheaper than $150. that would keep you a bit closer to the drumset. as for me, i've decided to go for the vintage 30/g12h combo in my cabinet. i plan on ordering the speakers in a couple weeks. i still plan on ordering my bass and mockingcaster parts on monday.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 187 (6/6/03 3:24 pm) Reply	Used would be good... ...but they aren't all that common. Short of calling around to all the stores in town, they're even difficult to find new in stock in stores. If you look on ebay, they go for $110 (at leats the one that just ebded did). There's one on there right now that's cheap, but from a guy with 0 feedback and no pics of the merch, and I'm not losing a dime on that shit.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 606 (6/8/03 7:48 pm) Reply	good call if i see a used rotovibe around here anywhere (highly doubtful). i don't think i ever mentioned this, but someone sold me a vox wah pedal for $30. i sent the money over a month ago and finally got the damn thing yesterday. it's great, but it's going to take some getting used to. time to order all the parts for my bass & mockingcaster. whoopee!
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 188 (6/9/03 9:48 am) Reply	ebay So, there's a bunch of rotovibes on ebay right now, several appeared over the weekend. One guy set his buy it now price at $129 with an extra $13 shipping. I can buy it new for $139 with free shipping from zzounds- cheaper than one that the guy "tried out". Others are set at $110. It's amazing how expensive these things are.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 613 (6/10/03 9:06 pm) Reply	i'm an idiot i forgot to order a string tree. my order's already in the mail, so i don't really want to make another. hopefully i can find one somewhere around here. if not, i can just take a string tree off of one of my instruments when i'm not using it and put it on the one i am using. ok, so that'd be a huge pain in the ass, but i may have to resort to that (i guess i should just do it to see if it will help my problem...eh, i'll get it all figured out some day).
the Wozz registered minibossie Posts: 247 (6/11/03 10:25 am) Reply	Re: i'm an idiot 2 guitar questions, sorry. 1. what is a string tree? 2. I am getting a strat body...what do youreccomend for getting a good, solid neck? -"you" meaning any one who decides to answer my stupid question
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 189 (6/11/03 10:51 am) Reply	there are no stupid questions First, string trees: See the little black dealybob that is screwed into the front of the headstock right above the letter L in G&L? That's a string tree. Its purpose is to increase the angle of the string over the nut which improves sustain. If you have an Ibanez, Jackson, Washburn, etc, you may have a tilt back headstoch, which does the angling for you, thus eliminating the need for a string tree. Second, as for a neck, Warmoth (www.warmoth.com)manufactures good strat necks and their products are to Fender specs, aka licensed by Fender. I have one on my custom Jazzmaster. Necks come in many shapes and sizes, and Warmoth will build you one to your specs. I can't recommend what those specs be, because it's all up to you. Do you like a wider or less wide width at the nut? Do you like beefier necks, or thinner shredder necks? What sort of curvature do you like for the fretboard? Do you want a Fender headstock, or the tilt back like described above? How many frets do you want? What size frets do you want? What kind of finish do you want? What kind of wood do you want for the back, and for the fretboard? Do you want inlays, or are fretboard dots fine? Stuff like that.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 614 (6/11/03 2:43 pm) Reply	Re: there are no stupid questions and if you don't want to order a neck from warmoth, i suggest ebay. of course, that's only good if you know what kind of neck you're looking for. i found a great neck on ebay. if you want to go the ebay route, tell us what kind of neck you're looking for and we can try to help you out. update: got some of my parts today-dual concentric pot and 3 way switch (also got 3 push-pull pots to keep around incase i fuck up one of the ones i'm currently using, which i most likely will in the near future). i could work on the mockingcaster now, but i must golf.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 190 (6/11/03 4:22 pm) Reply	Re: there are no stupid questions Grooovy. Hey, where do you order your parts from? Stew-Mac? Did you already mention it?
the Wozz registered minibossie Posts: 248 (6/11/03 4:32 pm) Reply	Re: guitarra pre-update thanks John and Mig. Your information is very helpful.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 615 (6/11/03 9:06 pm) Reply	uh-huh i do indeed order from stew-mac. they're quick, reliable, and reasonably priced. unfortunately, they don't send you string trees that you forgot to order. why can't companies be more omnipotent? i mean, i'm not looking for total omnipotence, just enough to get my damn string tree when i forget it. oh well. i imagine i'll get the switch installed tomorrow (maybe a new pot as well-think i may have fried one last time i worked on it). hopefully i'll get the bass pickup and capacitors soon (ordered from blackrosecustom.emerchantpro.com) so i can start working on the bass. wozz-anytime, man. let us know if you have anymore questions. and make sure to post updates if/when they happen.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 617 (6/13/03 3:21 pm) Reply	Re: uh-huh got the pickup today. definitely going to start working on it tonight. i hope i can get most (if not all) of the work done tonight. i'd definitely be able to if i didn't have to get up at 5 on a saturday...goddamn job.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 191 (6/13/03 3:47 pm) Reply	Re: uh-huh All jobs suck eventually, but they sure do help pay for so many things...
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 618 (6/13/03 8:09 pm) Reply	shit yes, all jobs do indeed suck, but this one seems to more than others. it'd be a lot better if i didn't have to be there at 6 in the morning 6 days a week. oh well. damn, shortly after my last post, my dad came home and told me we were going out to eat. then we went grocery shopping and whatnot, and now i don't have time to work on the ol' bass. tomorrow i'm working and seeing some friends, so that's another no go. sunday, if i'm not hungover, i'll be working on it. hell, i bought the new issue of guitar world tonight, and seeing jimmy page really isn't helping my want for a les paul. i'm sure that when i buy the led zeppelin dvd it'll make it far worse. i'm trying to focus on other things i need to buy (speakers, tubes, computer), but it's getting harder and harder...
raubhimself registered minibossie Posts: 1053 (6/13/03 8:37 pm) Reply	Re: shit i hate my job so much. I was supposed to have off tomorrow, but its going to be the busiest day of the year, so i have to work 9-3. It was my only day off in 8 days too. Ive been bitching somuch about my job lately. I got my guitar bill, my car insurance bill and my car repair bill today, so theres $1000 i gotta pay up. But on the good side, by guitar is playing nice.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 619 (6/15/03 6:48 pm) Reply	hellfuck alright, i started the bass work. i chiseled the hole, and wound up taking out a big chunk of wood where i didn't want to. fortunately it's under the pickguard, so it shouldn't be a problem. i've gotten the pickup covers prepped, but i can't seem to find any superglue to put them together. i'll find something. don't know if i'll get the wiring done tonight. if not tonight, then tomorrow. i'm also getting a 1986 seymour duncan alnico 2 pro humbucker. i'm going to try it out in both my guitars and see what i think of it. if it doesn't sound great, i'll just wait til i get another guitar.
mig50 registered minibossie Posts: 620 (6/16/03 5:11 pm) Reply	this day=dogshit fucking everything with this day has gone wrong, so i've decided to not touch my bass. the way i see it, i'll probably touch a pot with the soldering iron and the whole thing will explode. that's how my whole day went. anyway, tomorrow i'll get back to work. in other news, i was planning on ordering my speakers tonight, but i received an overdraft in the mail (just another example of how great my day was). guess i'll wait til i get all that shit figured out.
JohnMFer registered minibossie Posts: 192 (6/17/03 9:37 am) Reply	Re: this day=dogshit That sucks. Online banking is the way to go... I haven't bounced a check since I started using it.